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Schedules

Maximum tolerated is not maximum approved

Weight reduction in the long programmes flattens at roughly sixty to seventy-two weeks. The timing is consistent, predictable and almost never mentioned in advance.

In the long obesity programmes, mean weight reduction does not proceed indefinitely. It decelerates from around week forty and is substantially flat by week sixty to seventy-two, at which point the curve becomes a plateau maintained for as long as treatment continues. This is one of the most reproducible findings in the literature and one of the least communicated. Patients arrive at month fifteen convinced the drug has stopped working, when what has happened is that a smaller body requires less energy and balance has been re-established at a lower mass. The pharmacology is unchanged.

When the curve flattens, and why

In the sixty-eight-week semaglutide obesity trials, weight reduction decelerated visibly from around week forty and was close to flat by week sixty. Extended follow-up to a hundred and four weeks found the reduction broadly maintained rather than extended, which is the clearest available statement that the plateau is a plateau and not a pause.1

The mechanism is not mysterious. Energy requirement falls with mass. A person who has lost fifteen per cent of body weight requires materially less energy at rest and in movement, and the intake reduction produced by a fixed dose of a fixed drug eventually equals that lower requirement. Balance is restored and weight stops changing. The drug has not weakened; the target has moved.

Two inferences commonly drawn from a plateau are unsupported. The first is that receptors have desensitised — difficult to reconcile with the rapid and near-complete regain observed on withdrawal. The second is that the dose must therefore be increased, which in the trials produced a further step down the flattening dose-response curve rather than a resumption of the earlier slope. The plateau is predictable, is predicted, and is almost never mentioned to anyone before it happens.

Target dose against maximum dose

The SURMOUNT-1 results are the clearest available illustration of a flattening curve. At seventy-two weeks the mean weight reductions were approximately fifteen per cent at 5 mg, nineteen and a half per cent at 10 mg and twenty-one per cent at 15 mg, against about three per cent on placebo.2 The step from 5 mg to 10 mg bought roughly four and a half percentage points; the step from 10 mg to 15 mg bought roughly one and a half.

Set against that, gastrointestinal adverse events and discontinuation for adverse events both rose across the dose range. The question of whether the top rung is worth climbing is therefore a genuine trade-off rather than a formality, and it will have different answers for different people.

The Journal has no view on where any individual should stop. We have a strong view on how the question should be framed: not as whether to reach the maximum, but as what the next increment is expected to add and what it is expected to cost. Framed that way, a decision to remain at an intermediate dose is a defensible reading of the dose-response data rather than a compromise.

Between two unrandomised schedules, the one that responds to information about the individual is the better bet.

Priya Ramanathan, Editor, Patient Notes

What the withdrawal designs established

Two trials in this class were built specifically to answer what happens when treatment stops. In the semaglutide programme, participants who had escalated to the top dose over twenty weeks were then randomised to continue or to switch to placebo; those continuing lost a further eight per cent of body weight over the following forty-eight weeks while those withdrawn regained about seven per cent.3 In the tirzepatide programme, a thirty-six-week open-label lead-in was followed by randomised continuation or withdrawal, with the continuation group losing a further five and a half per cent and the withdrawal group regaining approximately fourteen per cent.4

These are among the most informative results in the field and they are frequently over-read. What they establish is that the effect is maintained by continued exposure and reverses without it. What they do not establish, because neither design examined it, is whether a reduced maintenance dose would hold the result. The comparison was full dose against nothing.

Given that cost is the leading reported reason for stopping, a randomised comparison of full-dose against half-dose maintenance would be one of the highest-value trials nobody has run.

Withdrawal-design trials: continuation against cessation
TrialLead-inRandomised periodContinuedWithdrawn
STEP 420 weeks to 2.4 mg48 weeks−7.9% further+6.9% regain
SURMOUNT-436 weeks open-label52 weeks−5.5% further+14.0% regain
Both designs compared the achieved dose against placebo. Neither examined a reduced maintenance dose, which is the comparison most readers ask about.

Maintenance dosing: the honest state of the evidence

Practices described to us include remaining at the dose that produced the result, reducing by one rung after target is reached, extending the interval to ten or fourteen days, and stopping entirely with a plan to resume on regain. The first is what the trials tested. The others are extrapolations of varying boldness.

The interval-extension approach deserves a specific caution. Because exposure is governed by the ratio of half-life to dosing interval, moving from weekly to fortnightly dosing on a seven-day half-life does not halve average exposure — it reduces it and also converts a fairly smooth concentration profile into a pronounced peak-and-trough cycle. Whether appetite regulation tolerates that oscillation is an empirical question and the answer is not in the literature.

Our position is that maintenance is the largest under-studied decision in the treatment course, that the trials answer continuation against cessation and nothing in between, and that anyone presenting a specific maintenance protocol as evidence-based is overstating what exists. Readers who know of a randomised maintenance-dose comparison we have missed should write to standards@compoundjournal.com.

How the Journal reports dose figures

Three conventions govern the numbers in this file. Weight-change figures are quoted with the estimand named, because the treatment-policy and trial-product analyses in the obesity programmes differ by two to three percentage points and secondary coverage habitually mixes them. Doses are quoted as the weekly amount, not as a pen volume or a unit count, because volume and units depend on concentration and concentration varies. And where a figure derives from a responder analysis rather than a primary endpoint, we say so.

Where we describe practice rather than evidence, the text says so explicitly. A substantial part of what is known about titration in this class is craft knowledge held by clinicians, and reporting it is legitimate journalism. Presenting it as trial data is not.

Nothing in this file is medical advice. The Journal does not recommend doses, schedules, products or suppliers. Several compounds discussed here are sold for research use only and are not approved for human use in any jurisdiction. Decisions about treatment belong with a licensed clinician who has examined the person concerned.

Five things about titration nobody can currently answer

First, the optimal escalation interval. No adequately powered randomised comparison of intervals at a fixed target dose exists for any molecule in this class.

Second, the optimal hold duration for a person who has not adapted at four weeks. Practice ranges from four to twelve weeks on no comparative evidence at all.

Third, the lowest maintenance dose that preserves a result. The withdrawal trials compared full dose with nothing.

Fourth, whether tolerability at one rung predicts tolerability at the next. Clinicians assume it does, plausibly, and the published dose-ranging data is not analysed in a way that answers the question.

Fifth, whether any measurable baseline characteristic predicts the ceiling. Nothing published does so usefully, which mirrors the situation for efficacy: mean behaviour in this class is well characterised and individual variation is not.5

The Journal lists these not as a complaint about researchers but as a map of where confident advice is currently outrunning its evidence. Anyone offering a precise answer to any of the five is offering an opinion, and should be read as doing so.

The Journal ends where the evidence does. Escalation intervals in this class rest on a kinetic argument that is sound and on a randomised comparison that does not exist. Dose holding rests on a documented adaptation and on clinical consensus. Maintenance rests on two withdrawal trials that answered a narrower question than the one readers ask. None of that makes the current practice wrong; it makes it provisional, and provisional practice deserves to be described as such rather than printed as a table.

References

  1. Garvey WT, Batterham RL, Bhatta M, et al. “Two-year effects of semaglutide in adults with overweight or obesity: the STEP 5 trial.” Nature Medicine. 2022;28(10):2083–2091.
  2. Jastreboff AM, Aronne LJ, Ahmad NN, et al. “Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity.” New England Journal of Medicine. 2022;387(3):205–216.
  3. Rubino D, Abrahamsson N, Davies M, et al. “Effect of Continued Weekly Subcutaneous Semaglutide vs Placebo on Weight Loss Maintenance in Adults With Overweight or Obesity: The STEP 4 Randomized Clinical Trial.” JAMA. 2021;325(14):1414–1425.
  4. Aronne LJ, Sattar N, Horn DB, et al. “Continued Treatment With Tirzepatide for Maintenance of Weight Reduction in Adults With Obesity: The SURMOUNT-4 Randomized Clinical Trial.” JAMA. 2024;331(1):38–48.
  5. Wilding JPH, Batterham RL, Davies M, et al. “Weight regain and cardiometabolic effects after withdrawal of semaglutide: The STEP 1 trial extension.” Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism. 2022;24(8):1553–1564.

Letters to the Editor

4 printed

Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.

You keep insisting on peptide content rather than purity when discussing dose certainty. I have looked at a dozen certificates from four different testing services and content is reported on perhaps a third of them. What are readers supposed to do with an absence?

M. Guðmundsdóttir, Reykjavík

The Journal replies

Treat the nominal figure as an upper bound and say so out loud when reasoning about a dose. It is an unsatisfying answer and it is the honest one. We have argued in Analytics that content should be a standard reported field, and we will keep naming the services that report it and those that do not.

Your piece treats the four-week step as arithmetic, and I accept the arithmetic, but my prescriber moved me up every two weeks and I reached the top dose without difficulty. I do not think the schedule is as constraining as you suggest.

T. Blakemore, Hull

The Journal replies

Nor do we, and the file should have been clearer. The four-week interval is a floor below which the previous rung is still accumulating, not a threshold below which escalation is unsafe. Plenty of people tolerate faster ascent. Our objection is to the inverse inference — that because you did, everybody should — and to the absence of a trial that would let anyone say which is which in advance.

A small thing. You give the semaglutide diabetes ladder as ending at 2.0 mg and the weight ladder at 2.4 mg, without explaining why the same molecule has two ceilings for two indications. It looks arbitrary and I suspect it is not.

A. Lindholm, Gothenburg

The Journal replies

It is not arbitrary — the two maxima come from separate dose-selection programmes with different primary endpoints, and 2.0 mg was established against 1.0 mg in a dedicated glycaemic comparison. We have added a clause. The underlying point, that indication shapes the ladder as much as the molecule does, is worth more space than we gave it.

I had a nine-week gap last year because my supplier stopped answering messages. Nobody in any clinical setting I dealt with treated that as a pharmacological event. Your framing of supply interruption as a dosing decision is the first time I have seen it written down.

M. Suárez, Montevideo

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