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Schedules

The ceiling is a tolerability finding, not an efficacy one

Where the curve flattens, what flattens with it, and what does not.

Off-label escalation beyond approved maxima is unquestionably happening in the grey market, and the Journal reports it as a phenomenon without endorsing it as a strategy. The relevant evidence is not encouraging: the incremental weight effect of the top approved rung over the one below it is on the order of one to two percentage points of body weight in the pivotal programmes, while discontinuation for gastrointestinal reasons rises across the same range. There is no published human data at all on sustained dosing above the approved maxima for the current generation of molecules.

Stepping down is part of the method

Dose reduction in this class carries a stigma that the pharmacology does not justify. Because the ceiling is set by tolerability and tolerability varies severalfold between people, the only way to find an individual ceiling is to move until it is reached and then move back. A reduction is the second half of that measurement.

There is a practical detail worth stating. Reduction takes effect on the same kinetics as escalation, which means the relief is not immediate: a person dropping from 15 mg to 10 mg is still carrying substantial exposure from the higher dose for a fortnight, and concluding after five days that the reduction has not helped is premature.

There is also an arithmetic trap for vial users. Halving a dose halves exposure at steady state, but the transition takes three to four weeks, and during that transition the person is at neither dose. Anybody adjusting downward to escape a symptom should expect the answer to arrive on a three-week timescale, not a three-day one.

Target dose against maximum dose

The SURMOUNT-1 results are the clearest available illustration of a flattening curve. At seventy-two weeks the mean weight reductions were approximately fifteen per cent at 5 mg, nineteen and a half per cent at 10 mg and twenty-one per cent at 15 mg, against about three per cent on placebo.1 The step from 5 mg to 10 mg bought roughly four and a half percentage points; the step from 10 mg to 15 mg bought roughly one and a half.

Set against that, gastrointestinal adverse events and discontinuation for adverse events both rose across the dose range. The question of whether the top rung is worth climbing is therefore a genuine trade-off rather than a formality, and it will have different answers for different people.

The Journal has no view on where any individual should stop. We have a strong view on how the question should be framed: not as whether to reach the maximum, but as what the next increment is expected to add and what it is expected to cost. Framed that way, a decision to remain at an intermediate dose is a defensible reading of the dose-response data rather than a compromise.

The escalation table is not a finding. It is an administrative decision that survived into a label.

On how dose schedules are made

Above the approved maximum

There is no published sustained-dosing human data above the approved maxima for the current generation of incretin agonists. Higher doses were examined in earlier ranging work and in some cases in dedicated comparisons; the pattern was consistently more adverse events and modest incremental efficacy. The dedicated semaglutide dose-comparison study in type 2 diabetes, which compared 2.0 mg against 1.0 mg weekly, found a further HbA1c reduction of a few tenths of a percentage point with a broadly comparable safety profile — a real but small gain at a doubling of dose.2

That is the shape of the evidence at the top of the curve: real increments, shrinking fast. Extrapolating it upward past the studied range is not supported, and the Journal declines to speculate about doses for which no human exposure data exists.

We report that off-label escalation occurs because it does and because pretending otherwise makes coverage useless. We do not report it as a strategy, and readers should note that research-use-only material is not approved for human use in any jurisdiction and carries no assurance of identity, content, sterility or endotoxin limit.

The arithmetic of a step: proportional increase per rung
MoleculeStepAbsolute increaseFold increase
Semaglutide0.25 → 0.5 mg0.25 mg2.00
Semaglutide0.5 → 1.0 mg0.5 mg2.00
Semaglutide1.0 → 1.7 mg0.7 mg1.70
Semaglutide1.7 → 2.4 mg0.7 mg1.41
Tirzepatide2.5 → 5 mg2.5 mg2.00
Tirzepatide7.5 → 10 mg2.5 mg1.33
Tirzepatide12.5 → 15 mg2.5 mg1.20
Identical absolute increments produce steadily smaller proportional increases as the ladder rises. Exposure-response depends on the ratio, which is why the lower rungs are the demanding ones.

The shape of the curve, stated numerically

Across the programmes the exposure-response relationship for weight is approximately log-linear over the lower and middle range and flattens above it, while the relationship for gastrointestinal adverse events is closer to linear in dose and does not flatten in the same range. That divergence is the ceiling.

In glycaemic endpoints the flattening is even more pronounced. HbA1c reduction in the tirzepatide diabetes programme differed by roughly a quarter of a percentage point between the 5 mg and 15 mg arms in the head-to-head against semaglutide, which is a small difference against a threefold dose range.3 For a person whose objective is glycaemic control rather than weight, the argument for the upper rungs is correspondingly weaker.

The general point is that the class has two dose-response curves running in parallel and only one of them flattens. Any discussion of escalation that quotes the efficacy curve without the tolerability curve is quoting half a graph, which is how the top of the ladder came to be treated as an obvious destination.

Five things about titration nobody can currently answer

First, the optimal escalation interval. No adequately powered randomised comparison of intervals at a fixed target dose exists for any molecule in this class.

Second, the optimal hold duration for a person who has not adapted at four weeks. Practice ranges from four to twelve weeks on no comparative evidence at all.

Third, the lowest maintenance dose that preserves a result. The withdrawal trials compared full dose with nothing.

Fourth, whether tolerability at one rung predicts tolerability at the next. Clinicians assume it does, plausibly, and the published dose-ranging data is not analysed in a way that answers the question.

Fifth, whether any measurable baseline characteristic predicts the ceiling. Nothing published does so usefully, which mirrors the situation for efficacy: mean behaviour in this class is well characterised and individual variation is not.4

The Journal lists these not as a complaint about researchers but as a map of where confident advice is currently outrunning its evidence. Anyone offering a precise answer to any of the five is offering an opinion, and should be read as doing so.

What follows this file in the department is the other half of the same problem: not how to raise the dose, but what to do about the symptoms that decide whether raising it is possible at all. Titration and tolerability are one subject examined from two ends, and the second end is where most people actually live.

References

  1. Jastreboff AM, Aronne LJ, Ahmad NN, et al. “Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity.” New England Journal of Medicine. 2022;387(3):205–216.
  2. Frías JP, Auerbach P, Bajaj HS, et al. “Efficacy and safety of once-weekly semaglutide 2.0 mg versus 1.0 mg in patients with type 2 diabetes (SUSTAIN FORTE).” Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology. 2021;9(9):563–574.
  3. Frías JP, Davies MJ, Rosenstock J, et al. “Tirzepatide versus Semaglutide Once Weekly in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes.” New England Journal of Medicine. 2021;385(6):503–515.
  4. Wilding JPH, Batterham RL, Davies M, et al. “Weight regain and cardiometabolic effects after withdrawal of semaglutide: The STEP 1 trial extension.” Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism. 2022;24(8):1553–1564.

Letters to the Editor

5 printed

Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.

Your residual-exposure table gives six per cent after four weeks. I calculate 6.25 per cent, which is a quibble, but the larger point is that it assumes steady state at the moment of interruption. Someone who stops three weeks into a new rung has less on board than your table implies.

G. Escalante, Lima

The Journal replies

Correct on both counts, and the table now carries the steady-state assumption explicitly. Your second point is the more useful one: interrupting mid-escalation clears faster than interrupting from a settled dose, and the practical reading of the table should be adjusted accordingly.

Your piece treats the four-week step as arithmetic, and I accept the arithmetic, but my prescriber moved me up every two weeks and I reached the top dose without difficulty. I do not think the schedule is as constraining as you suggest.

D. Iversen, Aalborg

The Journal replies

Nor do we, and the file should have been clearer. The four-week interval is a floor below which the previous rung is still accumulating, not a threshold below which escalation is unsafe. Plenty of people tolerate faster ascent. Our objection is to the inverse inference — that because you did, everybody should — and to the absence of a trial that would let anyone say which is which in advance.

Thank you for saying plainly that the maximum dose is not the goal. I stopped at 10 mg fourteen months ago because it was working and I was tired of arguing about it. Every article I read before yours implied I had given up early.

M. Fitzhenry, Cork

I want to object to the framing of dose reduction as measurement. In practice it is experienced as failure, and telling people it is a thermostat does not change how the appointment feels. The language problem is real and you have solved it rhetorically rather than actually.

A. Nazarian, Glendale, CA

The Journal replies

A fair hit. We can describe the pharmacology accurately and still be writing at a distance from how the decision lands, and the paragraph you object to does both. The reframing is offered as a corrective to a stigma, not as a claim that the stigma is imaginary.

You keep insisting on peptide content rather than purity when discussing dose certainty. I have looked at a dozen certificates from four different testing services and content is reported on perhaps a third of them. What are readers supposed to do with an absence?

L. Whitcombe, Christchurch

The Journal replies

Treat the nominal figure as an upper bound and say so out loud when reasoning about a dose. It is an unsatisfying answer and it is the honest one. We have argued in Analytics that content should be a standard reported field, and we will keep naming the services that report it and those that do not.

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