Vol. 3, No. 6 — June 2026Independent since 2024

TheCompound Journal

Reporting on incretins, compounding & the peptide supply chain

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Dose practice

The trade has decided the ceiling is arbitrary. The trials disagree.

Higher doses of these molecules have been studied. In general they produced modest additional efficacy and disproportionate additional symptom burden, which is why the approved maxima are where they are.

Correction

An earlier version stated that the step from 1.7 mg to 2.4 mg is a 1.7-fold increase. It is approximately 1.41-fold; the 1.7-fold step is from 1.0 mg to 1.7 mg.

The approved maximum doses in this class were not set by running out of efficacy. They were set by running out of tolerability at a point where additional efficacy had already become small. Semaglutide at 2.4 mg weekly was selected over higher doses examined in earlier ranging work; tirzepatide at 15 mg sits at the top of a series in which each increment produced less than the one before. That shape — rising benefit, flattening quickly, with symptom burden that does not flatten — is the defining feature of the class and the reason the ceiling exists.

Stepping down is part of the method

Dose reduction in this class carries a stigma that the pharmacology does not justify. Because the ceiling is set by tolerability and tolerability varies severalfold between people, the only way to find an individual ceiling is to move until it is reached and then move back. A reduction is the second half of that measurement.

There is a practical detail worth stating. Reduction takes effect on the same kinetics as escalation, which means the relief is not immediate: a person dropping from 15 mg to 10 mg is still carrying substantial exposure from the higher dose for a fortnight, and concluding after five days that the reduction has not helped is premature.

There is also an arithmetic trap for vial users. Halving a dose halves exposure at steady state, but the transition takes three to four weeks, and during that transition the person is at neither dose. Anybody adjusting downward to escape a symptom should expect the answer to arrive on a three-week timescale, not a three-day one.

Target dose against maximum dose

The SURMOUNT-1 results are the clearest available illustration of a flattening curve. At seventy-two weeks the mean weight reductions were approximately fifteen per cent at 5 mg, nineteen and a half per cent at 10 mg and twenty-one per cent at 15 mg, against about three per cent on placebo.1 The step from 5 mg to 10 mg bought roughly four and a half percentage points; the step from 10 mg to 15 mg bought roughly one and a half.

Set against that, gastrointestinal adverse events and discontinuation for adverse events both rose across the dose range. The question of whether the top rung is worth climbing is therefore a genuine trade-off rather than a formality, and it will have different answers for different people.

The Journal has no view on where any individual should stop. We have a strong view on how the question should be framed: not as whether to reach the maximum, but as what the next increment is expected to add and what it is expected to cost. Framed that way, a decision to remain at an intermediate dose is a defensible reading of the dose-response data rather than a compromise.

A month without the drug is not a pause. It is a fresh escalation at a rung you have not occupied for four weeks.

On re-titration

Above the approved maximum

There is no published sustained-dosing human data above the approved maxima for the current generation of incretin agonists. Higher doses were examined in earlier ranging work and in some cases in dedicated comparisons; the pattern was consistently more adverse events and modest incremental efficacy. The dedicated semaglutide dose-comparison study in type 2 diabetes, which compared 2.0 mg against 1.0 mg weekly, found a further HbA1c reduction of a few tenths of a percentage point with a broadly comparable safety profile — a real but small gain at a doubling of dose.2

That is the shape of the evidence at the top of the curve: real increments, shrinking fast. Extrapolating it upward past the studied range is not supported, and the Journal declines to speculate about doses for which no human exposure data exists.

We report that off-label escalation occurs because it does and because pretending otherwise makes coverage useless. We do not report it as a strategy, and readers should note that research-use-only material is not approved for human use in any jurisdiction and carries no assurance of identity, content, sterility or endotoxin limit.

Withdrawal-design trials: continuation against cessation
TrialLead-inRandomised periodContinuedWithdrawn
STEP 420 weeks to 2.4 mg48 weeks−7.9% further+6.9% regain
SURMOUNT-436 weeks open-label52 weeks−5.5% further+14.0% regain
Both designs compared the achieved dose against placebo. Neither examined a reduced maintenance dose, which is the comparison most readers ask about.

The shape of the curve, stated numerically

Across the programmes the exposure-response relationship for weight is approximately log-linear over the lower and middle range and flattens above it, while the relationship for gastrointestinal adverse events is closer to linear in dose and does not flatten in the same range. That divergence is the ceiling.

In glycaemic endpoints the flattening is even more pronounced. HbA1c reduction in the tirzepatide diabetes programme differed by roughly a quarter of a percentage point between the 5 mg and 15 mg arms in the head-to-head against semaglutide, which is a small difference against a threefold dose range.3 For a person whose objective is glycaemic control rather than weight, the argument for the upper rungs is correspondingly weaker.

The general point is that the class has two dose-response curves running in parallel and only one of them flattens. Any discussion of escalation that quotes the efficacy curve without the tolerability curve is quoting half a graph, which is how the top of the ladder came to be treated as an obvious destination.

Non-standard concentrations and the errors they cause

Compounded and grey-market preparations are frequently supplied at concentrations that do not correspond to any licensed presentation. That is not in itself a quality problem, but it removes every mental shortcut a person may have acquired, and it interacts badly with escalation.

The recurring error is arithmetic rather than clinical: a person who has learned that a particular volume equals a particular dose changes vial, keeps the volume, and changes the dose without intending to. We have seen this reported in both directions and at magnitudes exceeding a full rung on the ladder.

Two habits protect against it. Recompute the volume-to-dose conversion whenever the vial changes, from the stated content and the reconstitution volume, rather than carrying the old figure forward. And write the result down somewhere attached to the vial, because the calculation is easy and the recall is not. The Journal covers the underlying arithmetic in the injection-practice file; the point here is that changing vials mid-titration converts a titration decision into a units problem, and units problems are where the largest errors in this field occur.

17127.63.1-1.5SemaglutideTirzepatide15913172125weekweekly dose (mg)
Figure. Cumulative dose ladders over the escalation phase, semaglutide against tirzepatide, plotted as weekly dose in milligrams by week on the standard four-week step.

How the Journal reports dose figures

Three conventions govern the numbers in this file. Weight-change figures are quoted with the estimand named, because the treatment-policy and trial-product analyses in the obesity programmes differ by two to three percentage points and secondary coverage habitually mixes them. Doses are quoted as the weekly amount, not as a pen volume or a unit count, because volume and units depend on concentration and concentration varies. And where a figure derives from a responder analysis rather than a primary endpoint, we say so.

Where we describe practice rather than evidence, the text says so explicitly. A substantial part of what is known about titration in this class is craft knowledge held by clinicians, and reporting it is legitimate journalism. Presenting it as trial data is not.

Nothing in this file is medical advice. The Journal does not recommend doses, schedules, products or suppliers. Several compounds discussed here are sold for research use only and are not approved for human use in any jurisdiction. Decisions about treatment belong with a licensed clinician who has examined the person concerned.

Five things about titration nobody can currently answer

First, the optimal escalation interval. No adequately powered randomised comparison of intervals at a fixed target dose exists for any molecule in this class.

Second, the optimal hold duration for a person who has not adapted at four weeks. Practice ranges from four to twelve weeks on no comparative evidence at all.

Third, the lowest maintenance dose that preserves a result. The withdrawal trials compared full dose with nothing.

Fourth, whether tolerability at one rung predicts tolerability at the next. Clinicians assume it does, plausibly, and the published dose-ranging data is not analysed in a way that answers the question.

Fifth, whether any measurable baseline characteristic predicts the ceiling. Nothing published does so usefully, which mirrors the situation for efficacy: mean behaviour in this class is well characterised and individual variation is not.4

The Journal lists these not as a complaint about researchers but as a map of where confident advice is currently outrunning its evidence. Anyone offering a precise answer to any of the five is offering an opinion, and should be read as doing so.

The Journal ends where the evidence does. Escalation intervals in this class rest on a kinetic argument that is sound and on a randomised comparison that does not exist. Dose holding rests on a documented adaptation and on clinical consensus. Maintenance rests on two withdrawal trials that answered a narrower question than the one readers ask. None of that makes the current practice wrong; it makes it provisional, and provisional practice deserves to be described as such rather than printed as a table.

References

  1. Jastreboff AM, Aronne LJ, Ahmad NN, et al. “Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity.” New England Journal of Medicine. 2022;387(3):205–216.
  2. Frías JP, Auerbach P, Bajaj HS, et al. “Efficacy and safety of once-weekly semaglutide 2.0 mg versus 1.0 mg in patients with type 2 diabetes (SUSTAIN FORTE).” Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology. 2021;9(9):563–574.
  3. Frías JP, Davies MJ, Rosenstock J, et al. “Tirzepatide versus Semaglutide Once Weekly in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes.” New England Journal of Medicine. 2021;385(6):503–515.
  4. Wilding JPH, Batterham RL, Davies M, et al. “Weight regain and cardiometabolic effects after withdrawal of semaglutide: The STEP 1 trial extension.” Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism. 2022;24(8):1553–1564.

Letters to the Editor

5 printed

Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.

You describe the plateau as an energy-balance event and dismiss receptor desensitisation. Is there not a third possibility — that adherence quietly falls off at around a year and the plateau is partly a behavioural artefact of the trial rather than a physiological one?

A. Chowdhury, Dhaka

The Journal replies

There is, and it is a better objection than the desensitisation argument. Adherence does decline over the second year of the long programmes, and the treatment-policy analyses absorb that decline into the mean. We should have said that the plateau is very likely a composite of energy balance and falling adherence, in proportions the published analyses do not separate cleanly.

The claim that nobody has randomised escalation intervals is too strong. There are protocol amendments in several programmes that effectively created slower-titration cohorts, and some of those have been analysed post hoc.

M. Bogdanović, Podgorica

The Journal replies

Post-hoc comparison of cohorts created by amendment is not randomisation, and treating it as such is exactly the elision we were objecting to. We accept that such analyses exist and are informative; we maintain that they cannot settle the question, and the file now says so in those terms.

A small thing. You give the semaglutide diabetes ladder as ending at 2.0 mg and the weight ladder at 2.4 mg, without explaining why the same molecule has two ceilings for two indications. It looks arbitrary and I suspect it is not.

F. Okonjo, Asaba

The Journal replies

It is not arbitrary — the two maxima come from separate dose-selection programmes with different primary endpoints, and 2.0 mg was established against 1.0 mg in a dedicated glycaemic comparison. We have added a clause. The underlying point, that indication shapes the ladder as much as the molecule does, is worth more space than we gave it.

I had a nine-week gap last year because my supplier stopped answering messages. Nobody in any clinical setting I dealt with treated that as a pharmacological event. Your framing of supply interruption as a dosing decision is the first time I have seen it written down.

P. Hollingsworth, Norwich

You keep insisting on peptide content rather than purity when discussing dose certainty. I have looked at a dozen certificates from four different testing services and content is reported on perhaps a third of them. What are readers supposed to do with an absence?

A. Kirkbride, Leeds

The Journal replies

Treat the nominal figure as an upper bound and say so out loud when reasoning about a dose. It is an unsatisfying answer and it is the honest one. We have argued in Analytics that content should be a standard reported field, and we will keep naming the services that report it and those that do not.

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