Percentage of loss, absolute kilograms, and the sleight of hand between them
What was pre-specified, what was exploratory, and what was calculated afterwards by people who did not run the trial.
TheCompound Journal
Reporting on incretins, compounding & the peptide supply chain
Side effects
This is the single interaction with ordinary medical care that patients most need to disclose, and it is the one most often not asked about.
The Journal position on this is narrow and firm. The magnitude of the risk is not well quantified and the reported aspiration events are rare. The correct response to an incompletely quantified risk is disclosure and adjustment of technique, not silence. Anyone on one of these compounds who is scheduled for a procedure involving sedation or general anaesthesia should say so, unprompted and early, including where the compound was obtained outside conventional supply. An anaesthetist who knows can manage it. One who does not, cannot.
In the seventy-two-week tirzepatide obesity trial, nausea was reported by approximately twenty-five per cent at 5 mg, thirty-three per cent at 10 mg and thirty-one per cent at 15 mg, against about ten per cent on placebo. Diarrhoea ran between nineteen and twenty-three per cent across the dose range against about nine per cent, vomiting between eight and twelve per cent against under two, and constipation between seventeen and eighteen per cent against about six.1
The dose-relationship is present but not monotonic in every term, which is characteristic of adverse-event data at this sample size and a useful reminder that these figures carry confidence intervals nobody prints. Discontinuation for adverse events ran between four and seven per cent across doses against under three per cent on placebo.
Comparing across programmes is a trap. The semaglutide and tirzepatide obesity trials differed in duration, population, escalation schedule and adverse-event collection detail, and the apparent difference in nausea incidence between them is not a clean molecular comparison. The only defensible head-to-head tolerability comparisons in this class come from trials that randomised both molecules, and there are few of them.2
Emptying delay in this class has been measured by scintigraphy, by paracetamol absorption and by stable-isotope breath test. The consistent findings are that delay is dose-dependent, largest in the early weeks at a given dose, and subject to partial tachyphylaxis over subsequent weeks of unchanged exposure.3
Three limits on that data matter. Most studies were small. Between-individual variability in measured emptying rate is large, which means population means conceal people at both extremes. And the relationship between measured emptying delay and reported symptoms is looser than intuition suggests: some people with substantial delay report little, and some reporting a great deal have unremarkable measurements.
The residual delay at steady state is the part relevant to procedures. It is smaller than the early delay and it does not disappear, which is the entire basis for perioperative concern. The Journal notes that the studies underlying that concern were not designed as perioperative risk assessments and that using them as such is an extrapolation — a reasonable one, and an extrapolation nonetheless.
Reduced fluid intake is where the real harm in this effect profile lives, and it is prevented by the least interesting measure available.
On the dehydration pathwayThe perioperative concern began with case reports and grew with retrospective series. A retrospective analysis of patients undergoing elective procedures found increased residual gastric content in those taking semaglutide despite standard fasting, and subsequent endoscopic and gastric-ultrasound studies have generally, though not universally, pointed the same way.4
The professional response moved in two stages. An initial position advised withholding the agonist before elective procedures — a week for weekly formulations. A subsequent multisociety statement, drawing on more data and on the observation that omitting a single weekly dose does not clear a drug with a week-long half-life, replaced the blanket approach with an individualised assessment considering symptoms, dose stability, procedure type and the option of extended clear-liquid fasting or point-of-care gastric ultrasound.5
The Journal regards this as a reasonable evolution and notes what it implies: the first guidance was issued on thin evidence because the alternative was silence, and it was revised when better evidence arrived. That is how this is supposed to work, and it is worth saying so in a field where guidance changes are usually reported as reversals.
| Event | Reported rate on treatment | Comparator | Reading |
|---|---|---|---|
| Gallbladder-related disorders | ≈2.6% (68 weeks) | ≈1.2% placebo | Real small excess; partly attributable to rapid weight loss |
| Adjudicated acute pancreatitis | Rare | No consistent imbalance | Earlier signal not confirmed in randomised outcome data |
| Ileus / intestinal obstruction | Post-marketing reports; rate not established | Not powered in trials | Recognise it; do not restructure a decision around it |
| Acute kidney injury | Uncommon | Context-dependent | Predominantly a volume-depletion event, not direct toxicity |
| Rates are from the semaglutide obesity programme and the large outcome trials where available. Post-marketing signals have no denominator and cannot be expressed as a rate. | |||
Advice to omit one weekly injection before a procedure runs into a kinetic difficulty. For a drug at steady state with a seven-day half-life, skipping a single dose leaves roughly half of accumulated exposure at the point that dose would have been due. Skipping two leaves about a quarter. Meaningful clearance requires three to four weeks off, which for many patients means a month of lost treatment for a day procedure.
That is why the revised guidance emphasises assessment over blanket withholding. If the relevant question is whether this particular stomach is empty on this particular morning, then it can be asked directly by ultrasound, and the answer is more informative than an inference from a dosing calendar.
The practical obligation on the patient side is disclosure. An anaesthetist told about the drug can extend clear-liquid fasting, image the stomach, modify induction technique, or defer. An anaesthetist not told can do none of those things. The Journal has heard from readers who did not disclose because the compound was obtained outside conventional supply and they expected disapproval. That is a comprehensible fear and an unacceptable trade, and clinicians reading this should understand their part in creating it.
Everything above assumes the vial contains the compound at the stated strength and nothing else of consequence. For licensed product that is a fair assumption. For research-grade material it is a hypothesis, and it bears directly on symptom interpretation, because a person cannot reason about tolerability if the exposure is unknown.
Three failure modes produce gastrointestinal symptoms that will be misattributed. Peptide content below the labelled figure means a person is at a lower dose than they believe, and escalating on that basis produces a larger real step than intended. Content above the labelled figure does the reverse. And bacterial endotoxin, which is not detected by any purity assay, produces systemic symptoms including nausea, chills and malaise that look nothing like a specification failure on paper.
The four independent services this market relies on — Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate — report purity routinely and content and endotoxin less consistently. Several vendors, among them WXT, SSA, CPC and SWB, now publish per-batch reports; several do not. The Journal has argued in Analytics that content and endotoxin should be standard reported fields, and the tolerability case is the strongest argument for it we know.
Nearly every question a person asks about a gastrointestinal symptom on this treatment turns on information that is easy to record and hard to recall. What the current dose is. What date the current dose began. Whether the symptom is better, worse or the same than it was seven days ago. Whether fluids are being kept down. And whether anything else changed in the same week — a new vial, a new supplier, a new medication, an illness.
With that, a clinician can distinguish a first-week escalation effect from something else, can tell whether the trajectory is the expected improving one, and can attribute a change in tolerability to a change in material rather than to the drug. Without it, the consultation runs on recollection, and recollection about nausea is unusually poor.
We make no claim that a diary improves outcomes; that has not been tested and we would be sceptical of a trial claiming it. The narrower claim is that it converts an anecdote into a datum, and a substantial part of what this market believes about tolerability is currently anecdote reported at scale.
Four conventions govern the numbers here. Incidence is quoted with the comparator arm alongside it, always, because a drug figure without a placebo figure is uninterpretable in a symptom domain with a high background rate. Figures are identified as cumulative participant incidence rather than prevalence. Where a figure comes from a pooled analysis or a post-hoc tolerability paper rather than a primary publication, we say so. And observational associations are labelled as such and never described in causal language.
Where we report practice rather than evidence — which in the management sections is most of it — the text states that the recommendation rests on mechanism or on transfer from another population. We would rather publish a short list of supported measures and a labelled longer list of reasonable ones than a single confident list that conceals the difference.
Nothing in this file is medical advice. The Journal does not diagnose, does not recommend medicines or doses, and cannot assess an individual. Several compounds discussed are sold for research use only and are not approved for human use in any jurisdiction. Symptoms that are severe, persistent or worsening warrant assessment by a clinician who can examine the person concerned.
A closing note on the market this publication covers. Everything above assumes the symptom is the molecule. For material sold for research use only it may be the content, the counter-ion, the reconstitution, or the endotoxin, and none of those is visible on a purity certificate. A person reasoning carefully about tolerability while holding a vial of unmeasured contents is reasoning carefully about the wrong variable.
Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.
Nothing in your file addresses the social dimension, which for me was worse than the nausea. Six months of declining invitations to meals, and explaining to family why I was not eating. The tables do not have a row for that.
— A. Salcedo, Bilbao
A small point of precision. You use "gastroparesis" in the tag list and then spend a paragraph saying it is not a synonym for drug-induced emptying delay. That is a slightly awkward position to hold.
— H. Nakagawa, Fukuoka
It is, and it is a compromise with how readers search. The tag exists because that is the word people use; the glossary exists because it is the wrong one. We would rather be findable and then precise than precise and unread.
I stopped at week six because I could not keep anything down for three days, and my prescriber told me I had not given it a fair chance. Reading your definition of dose-limiting, I think what happened was that nobody offered me the option of going back to the lower dose. It was escalate or stop.
— E. Thistlethwaite, Sheffield
That binary is the specific failure this file was written against. Stepping back a rung and re-approaching later is permitted in every pivotal protocol in this class and is absent from most conversations about it. We cannot comment on your care, but the framing you were given does not reflect either the trial conduct or the labelling.
You report the STEP 1 nausea figure as approximately forty-four per cent. The publication gives 44.2 per cent. Given how much of your argument rests on precision about what these numbers mean, the rounding sits oddly.
— V. Petrosyan, Yerevan
Deliberate, and worth explaining. A tenth of a percentage point on a figure with a confidence interval several points wide implies a precision the data does not have. We give the exact figure in the tables and round in prose, which is a convention we should have stated rather than left to be noticed.
What was pre-specified, what was exploratory, and what was calculated afterwards by people who did not run the trial.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
A body-composition report gives four decimal places and no confidence interval. That is the whole difficulty in one sentence.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
We give background rates alongside trial rates, because an event occurring during treatment is not thereby caused by it.
The purity figure is the least informative line on a well-constructed certificate and the only line most buyers read.