Background rates, and why they matter for attribution
Pancreatitis is rare, was adjudicated in the outcome programmes, and did not show the imbalance early case reports suggested.
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Nausea and gastric delay attenuate over weeks at an unchanged dose. That single physiological fact is the entire justification for holding.
What the Journal cannot tell you is how long to hold, and we want to be blunt about why. There is no trial that randomised hold duration. The four-week convention is a kinetic floor, not an optimum. Clinicians we spoke to described holds of four, eight and twelve weeks, and several described patients who never went higher and did well. All of that is observation. Presenting it as a protocol would be dressing consensus up as evidence, which is the specific failure this publication exists to avoid.
The pivotal protocols in this class permitted escalation to be delayed. In the semaglutide obesity programme, participants unable to tolerate a dose increase could remain at the previous dose and attempt escalation later; the tirzepatide programme contained comparable provisions, with defined windows and a limit on how long a participant could remain below target before being counted as not having reached it.
This matters for how the efficacy figures should be read. The mean weight reductions quoted from STEP and SURMOUNT were produced by populations in which a meaningful minority spent time below their assigned target dose. The trials therefore already contain the effect of flexible titration, and the flexible approach is not a departure from the evidence but part of how the evidence was generated.
What the labels carry forward is the ladder. What they largely omit is the permission. A prescriber who reads only the label sees a fixed calendar; a prescriber who reads the trial documentation sees a calendar with a documented escape valve. The Journal has raised this with two regulatory affairs specialists, both of whom regarded it as a known and unglamorous gap in how trial conduct is translated into prescribing information.1
The evidence on deviating from four-week steps is observational and one-sided. Slower escalation — five, six or eight weeks per rung — is reported by clinicians to reduce early discontinuation, is consistent with the tachyphylaxis data, and has never been randomised against the standard interval in a trial of adequate size. Faster escalation has no supporting rationale we can identify and a clear kinetic argument against it.
What can be said with confidence is that the cost of going slower is bounded and calculable: a longer time to target exposure, and therefore a later arrival at the efficacy plateau. Because the plateau itself sits at sixty weeks or beyond, adding four or eight weeks to the escalation phase is a small fraction of the treatment course. The cost of going faster is a higher probability of discontinuation, and discontinuation costs the entire effect.
That asymmetry is the strongest thing the Journal is willing to say on the subject. It is an argument from consequence rather than from trial data, and we flag it as such rather than dressing it as a finding.2
A step from 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg is a doubling. A step from 12.5 mg to 15 mg is a fifth. Nobody explains this to the person holding the pen.
On the arithmetic of a stepHolding works because two of the three things a person notices attenuate on their own. Gastric emptying delay, measured by scintigraphy and by breath test, is largest early in exposure at a given dose and diminishes over subsequent weeks while the drug is continued unchanged. Nausea incidence in the trials follows a comparable trajectory: it peaks in the weeks following each escalation and declines toward a lower background.
The third thing — reduced appetite and early satiety — attenuates considerably less, which is the whole reason holding is worth doing rather than simply reducing. A held dose loses much of its unwanted effect and keeps most of its wanted one.
The magnitude of this adaptation is not enormous and it is not universal. Some proportion of people find that symptoms at a given dose do not settle at all over eight or twelve weeks, and for them the dose is simply above their ceiling. Distinguishing a slow adapter from a person at their limit cannot be done in advance, which means holding is also a diagnostic manoeuvre: it converts an unanswerable question about tolerance into an answerable question about time.3
| Product / indication | Start | Step interval | Rungs | Maximum |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Semaglutide, weight management | 0.25 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.25 / 0.5 / 1.0 / 1.7 / 2.4 | 2.4 mg weekly |
| Semaglutide, type 2 diabetes | 0.25 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.25 / 0.5 / 1.0 / 2.0 | 2.0 mg weekly |
| Tirzepatide | 2.5 mg weekly | at least 4 weeks | 2.5 / 5 / 7.5 / 10 / 12.5 / 15 | 15 mg weekly |
| Liraglutide, weight management | 0.6 mg daily | 1 week | 0.6 / 1.2 / 1.8 / 2.4 / 3.0 | 3.0 mg daily |
| Dulaglutide | 0.75 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.75 / 1.5 / 3.0 / 4.5 | 4.5 mg weekly |
| Summarised from product labelling. Schedules differ between jurisdictions in detail; the shape is consistent. Reproduced as a description of what the labels say, not as a recommendation. | ||||
The practice that has emerged across this class, without ever being formally codified, runs roughly as follows. Start at the initiation dose. Escalate when the current dose is comfortable enough that a person is eating normally, keeping fluids down, and not organising their week around symptoms. Do not escalate in the week of a symptom flare. If a rung is intolerable, step back to the previous one and try again later. If a rung is producing an adequate result, consider stopping there.
Every clinician we spoke to described something within a small variation of that, and none of them could point to a trial of it. It is a reasonable synthesis of the pharmacokinetics, the tachyphylaxis data and a great deal of accumulated observation.
The Journal has a specific position on this. The absence of randomised support for tolerability-led escalation is a real gap and should be closed, but its absence is not a reason to prefer the printed calendar, which has no randomised support either. Between two unrandomised schedules, the one that responds to information about the individual is the better bet. We say that as an editorial judgement rather than as a report of evidence.
Dose reduction in this class carries a stigma that the pharmacology does not justify. Because the ceiling is set by tolerability and tolerability varies severalfold between people, the only way to find an individual ceiling is to move until it is reached and then move back. A reduction is the second half of that measurement.
There is a practical detail worth stating. Reduction takes effect on the same kinetics as escalation, which means the relief is not immediate: a person dropping from 15 mg to 10 mg is still carrying substantial exposure from the higher dose for a fortnight, and concluding after five days that the reduction has not helped is premature.
There is also an arithmetic trap for vial users. Halving a dose halves exposure at steady state, but the transition takes three to four weeks, and during that transition the person is at neither dose. Anybody adjusting downward to escape a symptom should expect the answer to arrive on a three-week timescale, not a three-day one.
Everything above assumes the dose administered is the dose intended. For licensed pens that assumption is reasonable. For research-grade lyophilised powder it is an assumption that should be examined, because a titration schedule built on an unreliable starting figure propagates the error through every subsequent rung.
Two distinct quantities are involved. Chromatographic purity describes the proportion of peptide-related material that is the intended peptide. Peptide content describes what fraction of the vial mass is peptide at all, the remainder being counter-ions, residual solvent, water and excipient. A vial can be ninety-nine per cent pure and contain substantially less peptide than its label states, and content is the figure that determines a dose.
Of the four independent services this market relies on, all report purity and only some report content routinely. Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate have each published results in which nominal and measured strength diverged. The Journal has argued in Analytics that content should be reported as standard, and we repeat it here for a titration-specific reason: without it, the arithmetic of a step is being performed on a number nobody has measured.
If there is a single practical conclusion here it is that the ladder is a default and the person is the variable. The trials that produced the figures everyone quotes were run on populations permitted to hold, delay and step back, and reading their results as an endorsement of a rigid calendar inverts what actually happened. We will keep making that point until the labels catch up with the protocols.
Selected from correspondence received on this article. Writers are identified by initial, surname and city, verified before printing. Replies are from the desk that filed the piece or from the standards editor. Write to letters@compoundjournal.com.
You describe the plateau as an energy-balance event and dismiss receptor desensitisation. Is there not a third possibility — that adherence quietly falls off at around a year and the plateau is partly a behavioural artefact of the trial rather than a physiological one?
— H. Ravensworth, York
There is, and it is a better objection than the desensitisation argument. Adherence does decline over the second year of the long programmes, and the treatment-policy analyses absorb that decline into the mean. We should have said that the plateau is very likely a composite of energy balance and falling adherence, in proportions the published analyses do not separate cleanly.
The claim that nobody has randomised escalation intervals is too strong. There are protocol amendments in several programmes that effectively created slower-titration cohorts, and some of those have been analysed post hoc.
— E. Marchetti, Bologna
Post-hoc comparison of cohorts created by amendment is not randomisation, and treating it as such is exactly the elision we were objecting to. We accept that such analyses exist and are informative; we maintain that they cannot settle the question, and the file now says so in those terms.
A small thing. You give the semaglutide diabetes ladder as ending at 2.0 mg and the weight ladder at 2.4 mg, without explaining why the same molecule has two ceilings for two indications. It looks arbitrary and I suspect it is not.
— L. Dziedzic, Wrocław
It is not arbitrary — the two maxima come from separate dose-selection programmes with different primary endpoints, and 2.0 mg was established against 1.0 mg in a dedicated glycaemic comparison. We have added a clause. The underlying point, that indication shapes the ladder as much as the molecule does, is worth more space than we gave it.
I had a nine-week gap last year because my supplier stopped answering messages. Nobody in any clinical setting I dealt with treated that as a pharmacological event. Your framing of supply interruption as a dosing decision is the first time I have seen it written down.
— E. Beauchamp, Ottawa, ON
You keep insisting on peptide content rather than purity when discussing dose certainty. I have looked at a dozen certificates from four different testing services and content is reported on perhaps a third of them. What are readers supposed to do with an absence?
— B. Wojciechowski, Kraków
Treat the nominal figure as an upper bound and say so out loud when reasoning about a dose. It is an unsatisfying answer and it is the honest one. We have argued in Analytics that content should be a standard reported field, and we will keep naming the services that report it and those that do not.
Pancreatitis is rare, was adjudicated in the outcome programmes, and did not show the imbalance early case reports suggested.
What the trials measured was continuation against withdrawal. What patients want to know is continuation at a lower dose, and that study has largely not been done.
A plateau at an intermediate dose and a plateau at the maximum dose look identical from the outside and mean different things.
Head-to-head data exists for some of these comparisons and not for others. This piece says which.
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