Amylin is not an incretin, and cagrilintide is not a GLP-1 agonist
The glucagon arm raises energy expenditure and also raises hepatic glucose output. Balancing those is the whole engineering problem.
TheCompound Journal
Reporting on incretins, compounding & the peptide supply chain
Schedules
Concentrations fall by half a week, so a month away leaves a small fraction of steady state. Resuming at the previous dose presents the receptor with a step it has not seen in weeks.
An interruption in this class is not simply a pause. Because plasma concentrations decline with a half-life of roughly a week for the long-acting agonists, four weeks without a dose leaves something on the order of six per cent of steady-state exposure in circulation. Tolerability adaptations that took two months to establish substantially unwind over that period. A person resuming at their previous dose is therefore not continuing treatment; they are starting a new escalation at a rung they have not occupied for a month, and the symptom response is often indistinguishable from a first exposure.
Two trials in this class were built specifically to answer what happens when treatment stops. In the semaglutide programme, participants who had escalated to the top dose over twenty weeks were then randomised to continue or to switch to placebo; those continuing lost a further eight per cent of body weight over the following forty-eight weeks while those withdrawn regained about seven per cent.1 In the tirzepatide programme, a thirty-six-week open-label lead-in was followed by randomised continuation or withdrawal, with the continuation group losing a further five and a half per cent and the withdrawal group regaining approximately fourteen per cent.2
These are among the most informative results in the field and they are frequently over-read. What they establish is that the effect is maintained by continued exposure and reverses without it. What they do not establish, because neither design examined it, is whether a reduced maintenance dose would hold the result. The comparison was full dose against nothing.
Given that cost is the leading reported reason for stopping, a randomised comparison of full-dose against half-dose maintenance would be one of the highest-value trials nobody has run.
Residual exposure after an interruption follows from the half-life alone. For a seven-day half-life at steady state, one missed week leaves about half of accumulated concentration at the point the next dose was due, two weeks about a quarter, three weeks about an eighth, four weeks roughly six per cent, and six weeks under two per cent.
That table does most of the practical work. A single omission is a minor perturbation and the labels reflect this, generally permitting the dose to be taken within a defined window and otherwise skipped, with an explicit instruction not to double up. A gap of a fortnight leaves enough drug that resumption at the previous dose is usually uneventful. A gap of a month or more is functionally a fresh start.
The Journal notes that the labels handle the first case clearly and the third case briefly, and that the second case — the two-to-three-week gap that supply problems produce most often — is where guidance is thinnest and where the numbers above are most useful.3
A step from 0.25 mg to 0.5 mg is a doubling. A step from 12.5 mg to 15 mg is a fifth. Nobody explains this to the person holding the pen.
On the arithmetic of a stepThe convention after a long interruption is to resume one or two rungs below the previous dose and re-escalate on the standard interval. Clinicians described re-escalation as generally faster than the original ascent, on the grounds that a person who previously tolerated a rung is likely to tolerate it again, but there is no trial evidence for accelerated re-titration and the kinetic argument for four-week steps applies unchanged.
Two failure modes recur. The first is resuming at the previous top dose because that was the dose on the last prescription, which reproduces first-exposure symptoms in someone who has forgotten what they were like. The second is the opposite: restarting at the initiation dose after a two-week gap, which discards several weeks of adaptation for no reason.
Both are avoidable with the residual-exposure figures and a note of the date of the last injection. The Journal has come to regard that date as the single most useful piece of information a person on this treatment can keep, and the one most reliably absent when it is needed.
| Product / indication | Start | Step interval | Rungs | Maximum |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Semaglutide, weight management | 0.25 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.25 / 0.5 / 1.0 / 1.7 / 2.4 | 2.4 mg weekly |
| Semaglutide, type 2 diabetes | 0.25 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.25 / 0.5 / 1.0 / 2.0 | 2.0 mg weekly |
| Tirzepatide | 2.5 mg weekly | at least 4 weeks | 2.5 / 5 / 7.5 / 10 / 12.5 / 15 | 15 mg weekly |
| Liraglutide, weight management | 0.6 mg daily | 1 week | 0.6 / 1.2 / 1.8 / 2.4 / 3.0 | 3.0 mg daily |
| Dulaglutide | 0.75 mg weekly | 4 weeks | 0.75 / 1.5 / 3.0 / 4.5 | 4.5 mg weekly |
| Summarised from product labelling. Schedules differ between jurisdictions in detail; the shape is consistent. Reproduced as a description of what the labels say, not as a recommendation. | ||||
In this market, gaps are usually structural rather than personal. Shortage listings, restrictions on compounded supply, price movements, customs interdiction and vendors ceasing to trade all produce interruptions that arrive without notice and end without warning. We have documented gaps of one to eleven weeks arising purely from supply, in people who missed no dose voluntarily.
The practical consequence is that anyone dependent on a single source is also dependent on that source for the continuity of their titration. Several people described re-escalating three times in a year for reasons that had nothing to do with their tolerance of the drug.
There is a second-order effect worth naming. Resuming with material from a different supplier compounds the uncertainty: the person is re-escalating and simultaneously changing the actual content of the vial. Reports from Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate consistently show that nominal strength and measured peptide content are not the same quantity, and a supplier change during a re-titration makes any symptom change uninterpretable. Change one variable at a time is a laboratory principle, and it applies here.
Three conventions govern the numbers in this file. Weight-change figures are quoted with the estimand named, because the treatment-policy and trial-product analyses in the obesity programmes differ by two to three percentage points and secondary coverage habitually mixes them. Doses are quoted as the weekly amount, not as a pen volume or a unit count, because volume and units depend on concentration and concentration varies. And where a figure derives from a responder analysis rather than a primary endpoint, we say so.
Where we describe practice rather than evidence, the text says so explicitly. A substantial part of what is known about titration in this class is craft knowledge held by clinicians, and reporting it is legitimate journalism. Presenting it as trial data is not.
Nothing in this file is medical advice. The Journal does not recommend doses, schedules, products or suppliers. Several compounds discussed here are sold for research use only and are not approved for human use in any jurisdiction. Decisions about treatment belong with a licensed clinician who has examined the person concerned.
A closing note on the specific market this publication covers. Everything above assumes a known dose. For material sold for research use only, the dose is an inference from a label, and the independent testing services keep finding that the inference is sometimes wrong. Titration arithmetic performed on an unmeasured number is not titration; it is estimation with a decimal point.
The glucagon arm raises energy expenditure and also raises hepatic glucose output. Balancing those is the whole engineering problem.
The evidence base is thin and the document says so, which is to its credit.
What scintigraphy and breath-test studies established about emptying rate, and what they did not.
Delayed gastric emptying is a mechanism that becomes an adverse effect above a threshold. It is not a complication in the ordinary sense.
The dose-response curve in this class flattens near its top. That has direct consequences for whether the final rung is worth climbing.
We set out the questions that distinguish a symptom to manage from a dose to change.